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How broad do you name a 4 method all-in to win three bounties?

We do a deep dive into the maths of calling a 4 method all-in with Dara and David from The Chip Race.

Final week our pals at Dara and David from The Chip Race reviewed some huge PKO palms performed by our editor Barry Carter within the Unibet PKO Sequence. In the present day we break down one of many huge palms in additional element.

OK so that is the second hand of a €10 occasion. For context we’re halfway by means of the sequence and I’m doing nicely within the leaderboard, which is only for bounties. There’s a limp, an over limp, I increase, then it goes shove-shove-shove-shove. I’m going through a 70.63 huge blind name to win what might be a 355 huge blind pot, I cowl three of the 4 gamers so can win three bounties and a lift to my leaderboard rating. 

I do know pocket nines is a fold right here, however I additionally know it’s nearer than some might imagine, does my leaderboard place make this nearly justifiable?


David Lappin: This was a quick match and it was one of many most cost-effective of the sequence, so this was a really low cost method so as to add to your tally within the bounties. Plus with 355 bigs you’ll be masking everybody on the desk for the foreseeable future. 

Dara O’Kearney: You must weigh up your probabilities of profitable the hand and people three bounties, then what would these three bounties usually be price on the finish of the leaderboard? You additionally need to work out your fairness towards the man who covers you and towards the opposite three. 

David Lappin: Actually if Sylvester10 wins the hand, however you beat Girafcloner8 and Ogi3, you will nonetheless win their bounties. Clearly you solely have about 20 seconds so you will not be doing a lot on the fly maths. 

I used to be actually simply taking a screenshot on the time so I might tweet it afterwards. 

So it prices me 70 huge blinds to win a 355 huge blind pot, which a fast calculation tells me I want slightly below 20% fairness in pure ChipEV scenario. Nonetheless, as we talk about in our e-book PKO Poker Technique we’ve got what we name a ‘Bounty Issue’ of slightly below 1 which in layman’s phrases means we will take about 3% off that calculation, so perhaps 17% fairness earlier than you issue within the leaderboard. I did a fast simulation of what our hand appears to be like like towards a probable vary. 


I did not fairly get the fairness I wanted. As you possibly can see I made the primary shove fairly broad, then the following two very robust, then the ultimate hand we have been up towards very broad sensing they may win an enormous multiway bounty pot.

Dara O’Kearney: That looks like an affordable assumption. Simply as an apart, I’ve been doing these multiway simulations for the reason that launch of Flip & Go and it is wonderful how nicely overpairs maintain up. There’s a sense that any person will canine you within the hand however take a look at KK+ right here, it has 38% fairness. 

I knew 99 wasn’t wonderful, however I swapped 99 for a greater hand on this spot, 45s. It is not blocked by any of the massive palms and we get greater than the required fairness.


Dara O’Kearney: Very nicely finished this can be a good level. The factor about 99 is there extra individuals within the pot it will get worse. Towards one robust vary it does very nicely however by the point you get down to 5 you’re in very dangerous form. 45s is a flexible hand it does not matter how many individuals are within the pot it is at all times going to retain fairness nicely. 

David Lappin: That is the massive takeaway from this hand, if you happen to see quite a lot of YOLOing occurring in these PKO tournaments you’re higher off with a hand like 45s or 67s that has part of the board locked up, than these middling pairs. 

Dara O’Kearney: Totally different palms have totally different properties. Large pairs at all times do nicely in most spots, medium pairs do nicely heads-up. Ax suited hates being multiway as a result of it is at all times dominated, however KQs or KJs tends to do higher multiway than heads-up. 

So that is what really occurred…..


And only for enjoyable I checked out my precise fairness with identified palms…..


Dara O’Kearney: That is fascinating, JJ isn’t in significantly better form than you as a result of additionally it is lined. 

Yeah my hand needed to hit a set AND keep away from any person else hitting an even bigger set. 

Dara O’Kearney: That is why JJ is barely higher than 99 and why KK is barely higher than QQ. It is also exhausting for anyone to hit a straight with all these palms lacking. Nonetheless, 99 is sort of as robust as JJ as a result of it could possibly hit probably the most straights on the low finish. 

David Lappin: Additionally flushes. The AA has spades and hearts lined, KK has the diamonds lined, QQ has the golf equipment lined. When you get to JJ or 99 they do not have a swimsuit both. 

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